I like to read fanfictions, and i mean lots of lots of them, so when i discovered TF2 i started to read fanfics about it, and was unbeknown to the shipping between the mercs, and just to make it clear i see all of them as straight men. Anyways while i was reading a rather good fanfiction, no warnings whatsoever, i didn't know it was heading to a total gay fest, until it was to late. So there i was utterly terrified for this innocently but evil little fanfic, of course i didn't read into it further and stopped immediately when it became a little too weird between a certain Scout/Spy/Sniper. Nothing against gays but i think it has got a little bit out of hands with the shipping, i mean seriously, fangirls. WTF!?
I have absolutely nothing against gay people (I'm pretty much a bisexual girl myself so...) but I'm pretty sure that all the members of the TF teams are hetero... though I'm still not sure if Pyro's a man or a woman... or something else... So Pyro is the only one I don't mind paired with the others... But I personally think that Pyro might be asexual or pyrophilliac (sexually attracted to fire...)
Loved the rant LOVED IT and i get it, but here's the thing with me. I Ship EVERYTHING GAY, EVERYTHING if it's MxM I ship it. All of my fandoms ever. And TF2 EXSPECIALLY makes me happy becuause as you exaplined THEY'RE NOT GAY, and I know this. So FORCIVLY making them gay let's the little evil villan part of me happy. and when i'm happy, the little people of the imaginary world inside my head do not have to suffer..... as much.....
You are entitles to your opinion as i am to mine, and HOW you presented it here was very dignified compared to some ways i've seen. Like street protesters, who starts shouting at me, the moment they start yelling I'm all 'Hell no i'm not listening to you your yelling at me.' So thier point does not get through to me. I get what yoursaying, and i understand, i agree that they're not gay, but i think it's fun to pretend somtimesin my head. (Kind of like how i know old people who get mad at me when they see i read fantasy books and they go 'that's not real' and I go 'i know' and they're like 'you wish it was real and that's bad but it's not real' and it's so hard to explain to them that i don't wish it was real, because then we'd all be screwed over and that'd be bad.)
Thank you! Someone who doesn't assume every fricken team member is gay! I mean, I have nothing against gays, some of my friends are, and they're really cool people! The only one I could possibly understand is Heavy and Medic because they're always together... But still, thank you xD
God, this drawing. So gorgeous. Nothing like a sloppy drunk Soldier.
As for your not-so-little rant, it kinda made me smile, mainly because I'm partially guilty of just about everything you listed. I'm a shameless TF2 Slashfan. My biggest agreement with your rant, however? Number 6. God love the Demoman.
As an addendum, the being stuck in places with others for long periods of time usually has an adverse effect on any relationship between the trapped parties. Usually, by the time they leave, they never want to see each other again. Look up the Airborne rangers who were pinned down in a warehouse in Dresden during the carpet bombing near the end of WWII. They became good friends with the Wehrmacht trapped in there, but began to dislike each other in the process.
Forget everything I said. Apparently, I was talking out my arse, and blowing smoke. It was a long time since I read the book, and when I re-read it recently, it's completely nonsensical. Forget everything I said previously, and just assume that I'm a dumbass.
Ah, so true, so true. It's not that I have anything about being gay, but what you wrote, sir, is so true. Might I add that medic has a wife? Demoman uses it as a taunt: “Dominated! And I’ve been shagging your wife! Haha!”
Evidence: 1. Beaux and Arrows achievement: Skewer a heavy and his medic on one arrow. Beaux: Term for boyfriend. 2. "I *LOVE* this doctor." Even taking into account the fact that Heavy is always pretty hammy, you have to admit that that's pretty heartwarming. Also, he sounds even more enthusiastic than when he taunts with Sasha. 3. The Christmas card where Medic made Heavy a 50-decker Sandvitch. Aww. 4. Meet the Medic.
Even before MtM, you could at least see a one-sided crush from Heavy.
"why can't men, who have experienced horrific traumas just seek comfort in one another the way women can without being called faggots?!" <-- this. No I have no problem with homosexuals, but I also see that it's hard for two guys to be very close friends, almost like brothers, without someone assuming that they are gay. Have to hand it to you, you make an interesting argument. And I like your drawing style (:
"The sniper's a passive-aggressive loner that pisses in a jar." --> This just made me laugh.
supernova38Featured By OwnerAug 20, 2011Hobbyist Traditional Artist
that made total sense and i know what your saying but is it really worth it getting worked up by 3D renders of humans that are pretty much made of lights on a screen? i know its fucked up wanting to have sex with a non existent being , i find characters such as samus aran from metroid and glados from portal arousing and kinda sexy but not to the point were i want to fuck a hole in my laptop. some people can be messed up but you have to remember that its a waste of time ranting about their stupid mistakes and the stupid things they do, life is short. dont spend it complaining. your art is great, keep that up. and if its venting your anger and frustration keep doing it!
i once on deviantart came across this fatass who literaly had a fetish for fat women farting in his face, no joke. he was sexualy aroused by farts in his face. what the fuck? i spent 3 days trying to reason with him and make him understand how bizarre that is but no he called me a troll. so you cant change their mind so just ignore them.
I totally agree with that rant, it's absolutely ridiculous how some of these fangirls do this. I don't mind pairings when they seem to make sense, but it just doesn't work in Team Fortress. Sometimes when I'm bored, I'll try to imagine how these pairings could realistically work, and the only way I can figure is a combination of alcohol, boredom, and being stuck with a bunch of guys for very long periods of time. Their personalities just don't fit with all that fluffy romance those fangirls seem to love.
But... yes, maybe I'm a fangirl. But every fangirl that's older than 14 (by years or better: brain) knows that they are normal, straight man, and that's the better option. If they were people with a real life they'd probably freaks and "perverts". Honestly, could anyone imagine the Medic or Soldier having a traditional, nice easy going love life with a nice "normal" woman?!
I do like "gay" art, probably because I'm a perverted old lady
And I do like it when the crew of TF2 is involved.
But: when a source of characters is used I wish the artists would stay in character. Or create something of their own. Really, from my understanding the Medic is a social guy who likes a chat now and then, you could probably hang out with him at a bar. But still with a sadistic streak, dark humour and his own perception of ethics which are incommensurable with the ideas of the average guy or woman. The kind of man that tells the most disgusting stories while you are eating, not because he wants to make you sick but because he thinks them hillarious.
That's how he's portraied in Meet the Medic (imho ^^).
Why so many artists have to make him a weeny, timid crybaby and man-whore I do not understand. Even the design doesn't fit anymore. Sometimes Medic looks like an Japanese middle class insurance agent, sometimes like a 70 year-old teacher. Even worse: the kawaiiiii-versions. Scary.
Same goes for the other classes.
I really like man x man pictures/fanfics that are based on the character traits we see in the meet the... or official artwork. But for some reason many artists don't like or can't create pictures/stories with men that are both "top".
Little variation isn't so bad, if it helps to make them less one-dimensional and more human.
My plea to the community: if you want, let them be humans. Let them be gay, parttime-gay, loyal friends with benefits... But please, let them be themselves. OoC is bad enough, most of the times. But what some of you do is creating complete original characters.
Oh, and respect those who don't like gay stuff at all, it's the least we can do when we expect them to leave us and our strange hobby alone
(I hope I could explain my thoughts well enough, please forge me for spelling and grammar mistakes, English is, as you can tell, not my mother tounge ^^)
yo sorry it takes so long for me to reply to things - my mailbox is beyond full. Anyway, since I wrote this last year things have changed in the game - like meet the medic and other comical updates that indicate the men as being more 'kid friendly' as I think of it. Also, I have come to terms with the fact that I like the men just the way they are in the game and the valve publications, and so do most people who don't have severe issues. Gay or straight is just a matter of preference. Last year, even if I was paid to do it, I never would have drawn them in RHPS drag. It would have been too much. I could draw them viciously murdering each other, or fucking each other in the manliest, roughest way possible, but not put them in drag because I had allowed myself to become emotionally attached. I guess what I'm getting at is - I have my opinions, but none of this shit matters anyway, so why get bent out of shape over it when I could be having fun making artwork that forces people to examine themselves. I appreciate the attention, though!
I usually don't like the drawings etc where someone in the game is acting too soft and totally out of character, and I have a hard time seeing any of the guys actually in a relationship with each other. But, ever since I first saw the "Meet the Scout" video he's been a bisexual in my eyes. He's self-centered and have lots of selfesteem, probably believes that everyone wants him. He seems like the kind of guy that sleeps around rather than gets himself into a real relationship. To me he's more straight than gay, but I can still see him screwing some guys just for fun. I don't really have any definite thoughts concerning the rest of the guys sexualities, so to me it's just fun to look at fanart whether it might be Soldier x Engie,Heavy x Medic, Sniper x Scout or even straight/gay crossovers. Some makes me laugh,some makes me hurl and some makes me go "aaw"
I. FREAKING. LOVE. YOU! (plutomically that is) I feel the exact same way about EVERY type of fangirl gay porn shit!! When I first saw Medic and Heavy, I thought of them like they were old friends and acted kinda brotherly to each other....then I see all the crap on here and I just....*barf*
All the characters look too straight to be considered gay as well (srsly a black scottish cyclops just SCREAMS straight)